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Can Someone Name This Weave?
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Posted on Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:11 pm
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I made this from some left-over jump rings from several batches, and I don't know what the name of the weave is. Chainmailling community Brains Trust to the rescue! Can anyone tell me the name of the weave?
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=358588054168288&set=a.198806060146489.57726.180145915345837&type=3&theater
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Posted on Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:44 pm
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Gosh I wish people wouldn't link crap from Facebook. Y'all do realize that people access this site from work sometimes and said work sites can (and in my case do) bar their employees from accessing sites like Facebook, right? *sigh*

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Posted on Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:49 am
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I'm very sorry, Jax25.

If you will explain how I can upload the photograph to this forum thread, I am more than happy to do so.

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Posted on Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:53 am
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Took the pic from facebook and uploaded it on tinypic:

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Posted on Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:58 am
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Thanks for the help, drahcus. Much appreciated!

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Posted on Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:11 am
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It's a repetitive series of the same design extended into a chain. But it's not a weave.


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Posted on Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:23 am
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Some 4 in 2 chain with some added rings on the sides to hold some of the doubled rings open a little. Sort of a half-way done Back to Work or Butterfly. But I wouldn't describe it as a new weave, myself.


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Posted on Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:53 pm
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I agree with Lorraine and David on this. It's a 4-2 based design, quite pretty, but not a weave.


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Posted on Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:21 pm
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Thanks very much for your replies. You've saved me a lot of time digging through the weaves pages!

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Posted on Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:09 pm
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I think it might be more accurate to say that it is not a currently documented weave.


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Posted on Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:46 am
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[quote:5e3c78aaeb="ElementalDragon"]I think it might be more accurate to say that it is not a currently documented weave.


i call e4.

it's segments of ribbons bolted together on the side, with a kinged ring centered in each segment.

nexusmaille, something you might try, is paying close attention to the stacking direction of the segments.. in the image, some of them are flat to each other and some of them spiral.

European 4 in 1 (CGI; ribbon)
look into this article if you aren't sure what "euro4 ribbon" means. i am proposing that your weave is, more or less, short segments of ribbons "bolted", or connected by a simple japanese stitch.

short story long, the difference between flat and twisted stitches in your chain is the difference between
European 4 in 1

and this -
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af315/sakredchao/e4twist.jpg

this weave reverses stacking direction every other row to create a flat effect.

if the stacking is not balanced, the weave will look irregular.


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Posted on Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:25 pm
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Flowers 4 in 1 related, then. Differs in that there is a single strand and the "flowers" are lined up across the grain instead of with the grain. The use of two different size rings distorts the flower shape into more of a butterfly shape. The change in orientation to the grain quite possibly also contributes to the butterfly effect.

I think this particular repetitive series is not yet a documented weave.


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Posted on Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:49 pm
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I'd have to go with ED on this one, a 'not yet documented weave', unless a number of other 'documented weaves' are to be tossed out as not meeting the 'weave' definition.

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Posted on Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:51 pm
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Stripped down and shrunk down, this is what I see the structure of the weave of your chain to be. The E4 is 14swg 1/4" score and break cut galvanized steel, the "bolting" is 12awg 3/16" score and break cut copper. What I see is that the properties of your chain are dependent on the larger AR rings you used. In particular, you might notice that the center of each set of 3 "bolting" rings in my chain is pretty much vertical while in yours they are horizontal. I found that my chain laid straighter that way due to my closer, smaller ARs. The lay of the rings connecting directly to the E4 is forced into laying like the E4 instead of nearly vertical as in your chain, making 3 ring 2-in-1 spirals between my E4 patches. For that matter, it could also be said that your weave is E4 diamonds "bolted" together instead of flowers, with only the center of the 3 "bolting" rings being a "bolt" ring.

Edit: Corrected img link.


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Posted on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:25 am
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Thread Split twice at this point:

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