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i call e4. it's segments of ribbons bolted together on the side, with a kinged ring centered in each segment. nexusmaille, something you might try, is paying close attention to the stacking direction of the segments.. in the image, some of them are flat to each other and some of them spiral. European 4 in 1 (CGI; ribbon) look into this article if you aren't sure what "euro4 ribbon" means. i am proposing that your weave is, more or less, short segments of ribbons "bolted", or connected by a simple japanese stitch. short story long, the difference between flat and twisted stitches in your chain is the difference between European 4 in 1 and this - http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af315/sakredchao/e4twist.jpg this weave reverses stacking direction every other row to create a flat effect. if the stacking is not balanced, the weave will look irregular. PSA: remember to stretch.
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Joined: August 14, 2006
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Location: McPherson, Kansas
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| Flowers 4 in 1 related, then. Differs in that there is a single strand and the "flowers" are lined up across the grain instead of with the grain. The use of two different size rings distorts the flower shape into more of a butterfly shape. The change in orientation to the grain quite possibly also contributes to the butterfly effect.
I think this particular repetitive series is not yet a documented weave. Comprehensive Diameter Database: Web Page | Online Spreadsheet | About the database
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| Posted on Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:49 pm | Link to Post: |
| I'd have to go with ED on this one, a 'not yet documented weave', unless a number of other 'documented weaves' are to be tossed out as not meeting the 'weave' definition. | |
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| Posted on Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:51 pm | Link to Post: |
 Stripped down and shrunk down, this is what I see the structure of the weave of your chain to be. The E4 is 14swg 1/4" score and break cut galvanized steel, the "bolting" is 12awg 3/16" score and break cut copper. What I see is that the properties of your chain are dependent on the larger AR rings you used. In particular, you might notice that the center of each set of 3 "bolting" rings in my chain is pretty much vertical while in yours they are horizontal. I found that my chain laid straighter that way due to my closer, smaller ARs. The lay of the rings connecting directly to the E4 is forced into laying like the E4 instead of nearly vertical as in your chain, making 3 ring 2-in-1 spirals between my E4 patches. For that matter, it could also be said that your weave is E4 diamonds "bolted" together instead of flowers, with only the center of the 3 "bolting" rings being a "bolt" ring. Edit: Corrected img link. Comprehensive Diameter Database: Web Page | Online Spreadsheet | About the database
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| Posted on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:25 am | Link to Post: |
| Thread Split twice at this point:
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