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Zncon
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| Posted on Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:20 pm |
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Has anyone tried out the Spring Temper Stainless rings offered by TRL? I've made a few smaller things with them, but I've yet to try anything large.
How well do they hold up as armor, for something like SCA? |
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losthelm
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| Posted on Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:31 pm |
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SCA combat deals a lot more with concussive force then cutting.. so chainmail usualy helps a lot more with avaintails or Skirts then next to the skin as the fluid propertys of Chainmail usualy don't disperse the force much.
Without a good arming coat it can leave intresting waffle bruises.
As a decorative element it holds up quite well depending on the ring size.
I would go with 16 guage 5/16" on a small test piece such as voiders to see how you like the look.
a lot of people chose to go with welded or riveted it looks better and you can use much lighter materials while still holding up to the rigors of combat. |
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Zerwas
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| Posted on Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:52 am |
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I have a hauberk made of 1,5 mm thick 8 mm id spring temper stainless butted rings.
I use it just for LARP so not really comparable to real fighting but i never had to replace a single ring. |
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| Posted on Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:44 am |
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Here 1.4 x 7,1mm (closed-ring data, AR~5.1). No issues at all.
If I'd be asked to guess, I would trust ARs of slightly above 5, maybe up to 6, given spring temper is used, while I'd stay below 5 if only half-hard to hard were used, in case of medium I'd propose staying below an AR of 4.5 - In case of welded, punched or riveted there is no problem if even ARs in the 8-ish region are used; but here the maximum hole size rule (pencil test) should be observed.
-ZiLi-
Maille Code V2.0 T6.5 R5.6 Ep Fper Mfe.s Ws$ Cpbsw$ G0.4-3.5 I1.6-16.0 N28.25 Pj Dacdejst Xagtw S08 Hi
Human societies are like chain mail.
A single link will be worth nothing.
A chain is of use, but will break at the weakest link.
A weak weave will have the need to replace weak links.
A strong weave will survive even with weak links included.
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Zncon
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| Posted on Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:44 pm |
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The rings I'm looking at are 16ga (1.6mm) 1/4" ID, for an AR of 4.5, according to TRL.
It makes some nice looking E4-1, but the stuff is murder on my hands. |
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| Posted on Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:56 pm |
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Oh, 1614 spring has more than sufficient strength, be assured. And be prepared to shave your calluses more often than your beard. 
Use padded long-handled and/or short-jawed pliers for working with that stuff, if you want to avoid continuous blistering of your hands. What works for me can be seen in my article Tweezers and Tools - The Next Iteration (that I should maybe update somewhen to include the jaw face grooving I added in the meanwhile).
-ZiLi-
Maille Code V2.0 T6.5 R5.6 Ep Fper Mfe.s Ws$ Cpbsw$ G0.4-3.5 I1.6-16.0 N28.25 Pj Dacdejst Xagtw S08 Hi
Human societies are like chain mail.
A single link will be worth nothing.
A chain is of use, but will break at the weakest link.
A weak weave will have the need to replace weak links.
A strong weave will survive even with weak links included.
-'me |
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